A Collection of Web Design Horror Stories and Quotes from Bad Clients

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In the grand scheme of things every seasoned web designer has had an experience of a bad client, and will most certainly have there own horror story that will creep back into there minds from time to time. If you are one of the lucky ones yet to experience a client from hell, brace yourself, they are coming! You can’t avoid them, they are lurking in the deep recesss of the memories of every web designer they have already tarnished and scarred.
Of course there are good clients, and they out number the bad one 10 to 1, it isn’t them, those saintly people, that you will remember. It is those needy, clueless, ignorant, time-consuming and money-grabbing clients that you will sadly remember.
As time passes, you may look back on your own personal demon, sorry, client, and laugh about it, and chalk it up to as a learning curve. And if you are like the poor web designers below, you may feel brave enough to share your stories.
In this article we have collected the worst, or if you look at them in a different way, the funniest, web design horror stories and client quotes. Please, feel free to tell us about your own personal horror story or client quote in the comments below.

Web Standards Oblivion

The following is a story from Blake Scarbrough, a web designer based in Utah, about what can happen when others are oblivious to web standards.

A couple of months ago I designed a website for a new upstart company. The website was designed completely with valid XHTML and CSS. The client was happy and everything was grand when we finished our part. After the website was completed and running, a third party company was hired by the client to do some back-end website management for them.
Web Design Horror StoryTo make a long story short, they wanted to host the website we designed and integrate it into their online software. This third party company, moved our files over to their server and a couple of weeks later to my abhorrence, this company had completely re-written the HTML—to bloated invalid table based HTML. Not only was it re-written with tables but the navigation was converted to images and javascript rollovers instead of the CSS list based navigation. All typographic headlines that were done with styles had been replaced with images. Several pages don’t render correctly in Mozilla. It made me sick, why would someone do that to such beautiful compliant code? I can only imagine it is due to their ignorance about standards based design and their lack of skill to understand it. (I also think they only use WYSIWYG applications to build their code which is probably contribute to the ignorance with HTML.) I emailed them and tried to explain to them why we use standards-based code and its benefits, but I have not yet received any response regarding why they re-wrote the code.”

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Background Music in Web Design?

This horror story is from Lars Koudal, a web designer based in Utah, about what can happen when others are oblivious to web standards.

Rarely, but increasingly often, a client asks for some background music playing while users navigate their homepage. It is annoying and puts a strain on the end-users computer.
These days the bandwidth is not the concern, as new technology has made streaming through Flash possible, and the music can start playing almost immediately. Starting the music by default is still obtrusive of the user-experience, and having to search for the off/pause-button within the first few seconds of visiting a homepage irritates the user from the beginning, and is a very bad beginning for users visiting the homepage.
Web Design Horror StoryOn one occasion (this is years ago) a client insisted on putting music on his homepage for his visitors. It was so long ago that flash was not really wide-spread. Instead he opted (against the advice of my co-workers and me) to have it as a normal file. It is (was?) possible to integrate a music file into a sites using pure HTML coding, and this was what he asked for.
There were several problems with this. First of all, the music he asked to have on his homepage was 3+ minutes long, and to integrate it into the homepage, we had to use the .wav-format. The .wav-format is not know for giving small files, and to maintain a fairly decent sound-quality we had to use a pretty high quality setting.
This meant that we had two problems now. One, there was no option for the user to turn the music off, and we were gonna put a strain on the users bandwidth. (Back then, cable and DSL was not very wide-spread in Denmark nor in Scandinavia).
The client was happy, and chose to ignore the fact that the users could not turn off the music, I believe his exact reply were “Why would they want to?.”
About a month later he called us back and asked us to remove the music, he got a bill from his provider charging him for the obscene amount of extra MB of bandwidth his users were getting, bypassing his monthly allowed bandwidth by over 400% and that was very expensive back then.”

He chose to ignore the information and guidance he received, and he got what he asked for.

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They should have known better!

This story is from Morten Ildal, a new media professional with more than 10 years of experience. He has been involved in a large range of projects for notable clients such as Magasin du Nord, TV3, Denmark’s Radio and many more. This is his horror story, but it isn’t about clients, its about project-leaders and CEO’s from the ad world, that perhaps should have know better.

Our CEO and a Art director once asked me if I could make a nice animated intro with 3d and stuff for a new tv-show our sister company just finished to shoot and was almost finished editing. My answer of course was yes.
I had been working there for a year, I watched with amusement as the CEO and the AD held meetings for several weeks without consulting me. One day I was called into the meeting room where they both, with anticipation, described their idea for the intro.
It involved live shots, cameras flying into pictures within books and with a lot of 3d and compositing. A dream come true for anyone working with 3d and motion graphics. When they where finished with the presentation they looked at me with joy and asked what my impression was.
As I like to be honest i told them i thought it was a brilliant intro and it would look stunning. Then the AD said “Well we expect you to have it done in three days.”
The rendering of the 3d alone, five years ago, would have taken longer than the three days that they stated. So after I pulled out all of my diplomatic skills and gently told them it wasn’t possible within that timeframe – they looked disappointed. They then realized they spent all of the time on meetings and with tears in their eyes asked me what I could do in three days.
So Ive ended up working around the clock on a animating graphics in Adobe After Effects and we ended up with usable intro. But no 3d or real stunning stuff… “

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Three Warning Signs of a Nightmare Client (and why we sometimes don’t heed them)

This story is from a forum thread on Webmaster World, it is an analysis of the top three warning signs of a nightmare client on web design.
Being able to turn away business is a little intimidating at first. It seems counterintuitive to growing your company. But, it’s just the opposite. Turning away BAD business, and there is most definitely bad business in this field, frees up your time to market yourself to and design for quality clients.

Once upon a time, I received the “three warning signs” from a potential client all in the first sentence: “I don’t have much money, I need my site up and running a.s.a.p., and my current web design company won’t return my calls.
Web Design Horror StoryHmmmm…why, I ask you, did some benevolent lightbulb go off in my head – the toxic urge to help someone in need, perhaps – and not the glaring warning flares? I don’t know. I took the bait. We met, I agreed to slash my rates, get it done in 30 days, and thus began a relationship with a client that, because of their micromanaging and nitpickiness, ended up diluting my hourly rate to about minimum wage.
I learned early on how to spot the warning signs of a nightmare client. It just took me a little while to figure out how to say “no..” Early on, I am sure that the desire to grow my business was at the heart of the acquiesence, even in spite of that feeling of dread you feel when you are about to execute the contract. Now, with plenty of work from corporate clients, many of whom refuse to micromanage because they have jobs to attend to, I can be a lot more picky.”

“I need to do this as cheap as possible”

Usually, this comes out in their first inquiry. If I track the nightmare clients’ profile, I can definitely trace this comment to usually the very first phone call. In fact, it’s interesting how many of the potential clients who made this statement from the outset would ultimately either stand me up, or cancel the first consultation before we ever got off the ground.
“I need your best price” This certainly sends up the red flags now. Not because clients who insist on a fair and equitable price are inherently nightmare clients, but, clients who begin with this as their foundation, those who are price-driven, ultimately don’t understand value. They ask “what will you do for me?” instead of “what will my website do for me?.”

“I need it yesterday”

A tight time constraint is not, in and of itself, a problem. In fact, a number of my better clients have been somewhat urgent about a launch date. But taken in concert with bullet point #1, this becomes indicative of a client who has no understanding of or regard for the process. They think you are sitting at home with nothing else to work on other than their $1000 site. Usually, all other aspects of their business, project, etc are equally in disarray. They are close to closing down, and their website is a last ditch effort to generate business, and so on.
This type of frenetic urgency is interesting, in that, usually, these people are the nitpickiest clients of all – critiquing every font, gradient, and crop. Wanting it done over and over until the picture they saw in their head begins to take shape, or, more likely, until it begins to look like their friend’s website, which is what they wanted it to look like all along, but were afraid to say so.”

“My current web designer won’t call me back”

I have seen and heard many varients on this theme. Sometime it’s couched in secrecy, i.e. “our last company we just had a…well, it just didn’t work out”; sometimes overt, to-wit: “the web design company I hired dropped me” or “says they won’t do my site because they don’t agree with my content.”

Hmmm….

Now, this is much different that the client who breaks with their existing web design company because truly, they are getting bad service, or perhaps they entered into a relationship with a fledgling designer who either got in over their head or evaporated before they ever got off the ground, but you can definitley tell the difference.
This is the client who, by the tone and description of their “falling out” is clearly suspect, and it’s very soon apparent that the reason they had a falling out is because they were pouring scope creep into their relationship by the truckload, micromanaging, changing their minds, and diluting the value of the already whittled-down price way past the point of tolerant.”

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“I Would Like a Website”

I am sure many web designers have had clients like this:

Caution! Six Warning Signs Of A Bad Client

Sometimes, you have to say no to incoming work. No, I haven’t lost my mind. Yes, I know the state of the economy. And yes, I know how hard it can be, especially during a recession, to find design work when it seems like everyone is cutting back, tightening up and sucking in.”

By Alyssa Gregory, read more here: Caution! Six Warning Signs Of A Bad Client ».

20 signs you don’t want that web design project

Most clients are good clients, and some clients are great clients. But some jobs are just never going to work out well. Herewith, a few indicators that a project may be headed to the toilet.”

By Jeffrey Zeldman, read more here: 20 signs you don’t want that web design project »

10 Warning Signs of a Bad Client

Designers need to design and bills have to be paid, but all work is not good work. In fact, some potential jobs (and potential clients) can cost you. Here are six warning signs that you may have a bad client lurking.”

By Matthew Griffin, read more here: 10 Warning Signs of a Bad Client »

How Do You Know You’re Working With A Bad Client?

While it’s best to weed out bad clients before a contract is signed and the project begins, often times it doesn’t happen that way. I recently shed the weight, stress and hassle of a “bad client”, so I want to share that experience and five warning signs of a client you should avoid at all costs.”
So how do you identify a bad client?

By Rick Whittington, read more here: How Do You Know You’re Working With A Bad Client? »

10 Tips For Communicating With A Difficult Client

As a web designer you are bound and determined to at one point and time come across a troublesome client. There are know-it-all clients, the low-tech clients, the day-late clients, and many more. No matter what their nature may be they exist and seem to come by all too often. Learning how to communicate with these clients can immensely change the outcome of your day-to-day productivity as well as your overall success.”

By Shay Howe, read more here: 10 Tips For Communicating With A Difficult Client »

10 Types of Bad Clients and How To Avoid Them

Over the years, I have noticed that most bad clients seem to fall into certain common patterns. In this post, I share those patterns with you. Keep in mind that none of these bad client types are specific to any one client that I’ve ever worked with. Rather, these examples are a generalization of the many different characteristics a bad client can take. Personally, I rarely ever have to deal with a bad client in my business, and I’ll explain how you too can avoid them in this article.”

By Laura Spencer, read more here: 10 Types of Bad Clients and How To Avoid Them »

7 Common Design Mistakes That Clients Love (and how to fight back)

From flash intros, to logo theft, to information overload, clients often ask a design team to do a lot of stuff that’s just plain wrong. Here are 7 of the most common mistakes clients might ask you to make — and how to talk some sense into them.”

By Peter Alexander, read more here: 7 Common Design Mistakes That Clients Love (and how to fight back) »

Web Design Bad Client Quotes

Below you will find a collection of random, yet oh-so-familiar true quotes from web design clients:

“Please follow original instructions. we don’t want this page to look tricked out or computer generated…”

“Our web site doesn’t load if I turn javascript off … please fix this.”

“I want our side bar to look exactly like amazon’s. oh, here i am gonna send it to you, just use it…and then maybe make it kinda pastel, i hear that’s the new thing now, to make things look feminine.

“Can you guys make it more like a power-point presentation, you know, with the sliding text stuff and all?.”

“Well, I don’t think we really want it to look too much like a Web site. You know what I mean?.”

“I checked with a friend and they said there definitely IS a rainbow effect in photoshop, why did you tell us there wasn’t one?.”

“more fonts. use more fonts!”
“ummm… how many do you want?”
“how many do you have?”

“I just don’t understand why this Flash cost so much. I mean, I can do the same kind of animations in PowerPoint. Why can’t we do something like in PowerPoint. It seems pretty simple to me.”

“We want a website that can play DVD quality video, but we don’t want to use streaming video and the load time must be zero.”

“less creativity, bigger pictures.”

“I saw your flash and html demos and the 3d commercial that you prepared, firstly,”I should say I dont believe that web design is a form of art”,and what you create is a kind of “bad art.”You shouldn’t create those, our agency will inform you about design, just use the instructions which will come from them, and create the site… Isn’t that what the webdesigner is for?”

“Dude, I got you a CD of clip art. Let’s make this site look dope!.”

“What is so complicated? I can understand all this! Let me do it, do you really think it is that complicated? It seems pretty easy to me.”

“Can you do it like in the Matrix…you know with numbers, zeros and ones, and glowing light, like in the Matrix, you know.”

“…why don’t you use more of that purple and green together?.”

“Please move the buttons to the top right hand side as one of my friends who uses the internet a lot says they will look better there.”

“We want it to be black, but could you not make it so dark?”

“The fact that this logo is creative and interesting is exactly what is wrong with it.”

“Why do we have all this blank space here, what can we do to fill it up.”

“Can you make it work in Netscape?”

“I’m not to sure about that “sign-in” button. Could you please make me 50 of them so that I can choose.”

“Can you add a frog, just jumping around the page. That’s bound to get people coming back to our site”.

From a client responding to a prototype with ‘lorem ipsum’ text on it:
“Why’s the site written in Spanish? The partners are definitely going to want to know what that’s about!”

View the source and read more web client quotes here »

Make the Logo Bigger!

I am sure everyone has had a client that demanded this: Make the Logo Bigger! Awesome.

Design Coding Rap

Perhaps you should show every potential web client this video, it may help to put things into context and save you a lot of future agony.

Do you have a web design horror story?

We would love to hear about your own bad experiences with clients, please share them with everyone by leaving a comment below.

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Comments and Reactions

  • magallanes

    Lol, pretty amusing but this post miss the most common and annoying quote of a bad client:”I WANT BLUE”

    Damn blue, the main trouble is that there are not just a single blue but thousand of blues, #0000FF = blue but also ##0000F0 is also a blue.

  • http://www.amberweinberg.com Amber Weinberg

    Wow I can add to a few of these ;)

  • http://www.davidplattart.com David Platt

    yep to everything. However, background music in Flash sites is pretty cool.

  • http://www.rossmagichoward.com Ross

    My old boss tossed the terminology “Creative Wank” around every time we tried to make a website a little special. It was a sweatshop agency though.

    Ha ha, he would stick his head out of his office now and again to shout “Can we do it with HTML?” before hearing him on the phone saying “Yeah, we can do that, no problem!”

    Almost killed my inner child :(

  • http://absinthe-design.com Rav3

    OK this was my first project ever in the real world.

    I was recommended by a friend and was told all i had to do was code the thing. that it was all ready, so i get in, meet the boss (a marketing mba) and he tells me everything about how they want the site to be dynamic attractive and that the pay was good.

    So i say ok sign the contract and what not. Then they take me to the art director a dude youger than me and WAY greener than me. and he shows me two hand made drawings of something that looked like a saturday morning cartoon. Thats all they had.

    So they go in about flash, animations, etc. and that it all had to be done in 30 days 0_0.

    So i go on and explain all that is wrong with that and ask to see the site map. I get blank looks. So i start asking and building the site and i get a whooping 32 pages of content. finally i get to a compromise BUT i cant get rid of the damn flash intro cause the boss loves them. Finally i kill myself over everything, find ways to make the navigation and all and present to the client. The client likes it but then their internal designer takes a look at it and has a fit.

    Ok i think an ally, yea right, this is a woman whos education stopped in 1989 and whose idea of a webpage is a powerpoint.

    so second redesign, AND every time i get them to agree to a layout they decide to move everything, of course the marketing dude only says yes yes hell make the changes.

    After 6 months i finish the damn thing and my paycheck went from 100 bucks an hour to about 2 an hour.

  • Michael

    As a student who dabbles in freelance development I know the point over table-based designs only too well. My school gets their sites made by some local firm that uses some bastardised mix of excess divs, tables, flash, and marquees to create their sites.

    The code is so sloppily written that the old version of school’s site linked to a random html page of the site as a stylesheet. I’ll repeat that, they tried to use a html page as a stylesheet… if anyone ever figures out the logic behind that I’d love to hear it.

  • MWeber

    Depending on the client you work with you basically should not call yourself a designer as some (alot?) of them prefer to think they know everything better. You’re just the guy pushing pixels and paths into something ugly. Had serval discussions with client why I’d not recommend to use Comic Sans at all or use Arial for a print product. Life would be way easier without clients.

  • http://www.simpleedesignsite.com Jasmyn

    I had those exact “three warning signs of a nightmare client”, and I didn’t heed them either. Needless to say, I ended up doing a crap load of work for nothing (literally). After that debacle, I rewrote my contract and it’s been smooth sailing (well, relatively smooth) ever since.

  • http://www.atakinteractive.com/ Los Angeles web design

    Hey I totally agree that at times there are worst of clients one can get. And the instances you have mentioned above are scary plus funny, I will remember most of them and share them with my friends as well. Keep writing such articles.

  • http://www.idea15webdesign.com Heather

    That first horror story (“Web Standards Oblivion”) sounds like it was outsourced to the third world. Bloated table layout, cheesy boasts of the “latest technology”, and failure to return communications are the classic hallmarks of a middleman who outsources his work.

    I was asked to clean up a site that had been outsourced to China. All of the images had been sliced into 15kb parts and reassembled in tables. That was the least of it.

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  • http://plainbeta.com Brian Purkiss

    Before starting the job, I made sure my client’s server was up to snuff. Turns out, it wasn’t – it was running PHP 4 instead of PHP 5. So once I built and developed the site, I couldn’t get the CMS running.

    My client wasn’t happy.

    I jumped through hoops and after two weeks, they’re hosting company finally got their site onto a server with PHP 5. But they didn’t get something else running, forgot what it was.

    Eventually the client threatened to sue me because their site wasn’t running, even though I had gone way over time both on the site design and development on top of me doing all the work to get their server running what it should.

    They never payed me the final installment, they never got their design, and they re-designed their site with Frontpage using a Christmas template (in May) and it looks like crap.

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  • http://www.website-and-graphic-design.com/ Anne

    I had to wipe some tears away … :D Can definitely relate! I said a definitive ‘no’ to two projects that had all the hallmarks of turning as bad as an apple left laying in the dirt beneath the tree too long.

    One person wanted to pay me out of – get this – commission they will earn when they ‘one day’ sell a house to me. I’m still floored by that one … and the other wanted to pay me when they made enough money from selling their poor product off their web site – the product was US Flags. *sigh*

  • http://www.designtank.ws Chris Raymond

    LOL–RE: Alyssa Gregory of Sitepoint’s tips on a bad client: I’d add:

    7. When they expect to pay the same price as they’d get using 99designs (Sitepoint’s infamous “crowdsourcing” design market.

  • http://www.designhell.com Designhell

    Worst clients are always the ones who asks for ideas and do something to show them my skills and don’t want to pay for sample work.

  • Sam

    Great article and spot on! I have a client that paid me $700 to make an e-commerce clothing store. She’s complaining because it’s not as custom or functional as a multi-million dollar clothing companies website that competes with her. I explained to her they probably spent well over $100,000 on their website and has professional web developers on staff full time to manage it. her reply? Why can’t you just do it? You promised a professional e-commerce website. What’s the difference? How do you explain that if you walk into a Ferrari dealership with $10,000, you’ll walk out with a keychain, not a F430 Convertible?

    How do you explain that to someone this dumb?

  • Ricardo

    Great collection. Been through lots of it

    One caveat:
    In “Web Design Bad Clients Quotes” they are mocking this sentence:
    “Our web site doesn’t load if I turn javascript off … please fix this.”

    Websites shouldn’t require Javascript to function, it’s common knowledge that goes along with web standards, progressive enhancement. Most mobile and other specialized clients don’t have full support for it, and lots of users disable it for “security” reasons or to avoid ads.

    So, in that case, the client is right.

  • Elle

    I have had worst things happen. I once had someone ask for a website with a five page essay on the homepage of 8 different websites. I had one client who wanted their picture on every single page of the 10 page business site. Another client wanted to advertise for their religion with quotes on their business site. Created a website for a client with full on fancy coding to have the client come to me a few months later wanting me to teach them how to manage the site (they are also computer challenged).

  • Glenn

    I recently had the privilege of getting a truly nightmarish client.

    I met with the owner, and he seemed okay. But his business partner was nuts. The partner proceeded to argue with me about almost everything. I tried to avoid him and deal only with the owner, but that soon became impossible because this guy interceded at every opportunity.

    Anyway, I created a WordPress-powered site and uploaded the theme. WordPress had already been installed on the server, and I was only given access to the dashboard, not the server.

    A revision was requested by the client, and I did the revision. But I needed server access.

    Well, when I requested access to upload files to the images folder, the owner’s partner went crazy on me. “I don’t give anyone access to our server,” he said. “And I already gave you FTP login information.”

    Of course, the login info was invalid, and I was unable to FTP any files.

    Well, the only solution I could find was to upload the images to the WordPress media library and use absolute URLs in the stylesheet.

    Afterwards, I invoiced the client via PayPal. Then his partner wanted a more detailed invoice, so I created one and sent that. Now, all communication from the client has ceased, and I don’t think payment for the revision will be forthcoming.

    If he does pay me and then wants me to do additional work for him, I will tell him to screw himself.

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  • http://www.Bayareadesigns.net Carl

    I did a design so good that the person I subcontracted with showed if off to her other designers. She only does that when designs are really good.

    But the client I did it for didnt like it. Fine, this comes with the territory. So I made the mistake of screen sharing with him and moving stuff around. He was very, very specific about everything.

    To make a long story short, I did exactly what he wanted in real time and come our next interview he insulted my designs skills. I was pissed.

    This clients have no idea the hours, skill we put into it all. I think designers are among the most under appreciated professionals out here.

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  • http://greenwoodwebmarketing.com greenwoodwebmarketing

    I agree that there are times there you have worst clients you can get. I remember those days.

    Thanks for a nice article.

    Keep it up!

  • Annie

    OK- I get it, web design can be such a frustrating job because of all the client’s needs. I am a print graphic designer, so I completely understand the frustrations, and that people are not aware of how long the projects take. That being said, I have a horror story from the client side. Hopefully none of these web designers will make the same mistake.

    My web designer was hired by me last January to create a Word Press site of which I designed and sent him all the materials at the right size, and he just built the site. He said it would take a couple of weeks at the most to build this site. A couple of months later, I had to email him to get it done asap. Because it was already late and I spent a lot of time designing it (and really, how long does it take to just put a WordPress site up when the design is created). Once it was up, I had to go in and make all the changes in the site such as uploading my photos, etc, so all he really did was build it based on my design. Also, he kept giving me excuses about his kids being sick, he was sick, etc. As a client, I don’t want to hear excuses when my site is a month and a half overdue. Especially when I took a lot of my time to design it and just wanted it launched. I had to relentlessly email him so that he would just work on it. There were still some changes that needed to be made once it was launched, and we still had some problems with the shop that needed to be fixed. After trying to track him down for months (although I admit I was busy as well, so it was both of us being busy) we finally met in July to talk about the site and the rest of the changes that needed to be made. He told me that we would have it ready by August or September with the shop working for my business. It is now mid October and once again I had to relentlessly email him to get him to move forward with this site. He has a full time job, so he is burdened by me. And he lets me know this.

    To make matters worse, I am now paying $2000 over budget (which I am willing to pay since I just need my shop to work correctly and I understand there was some coding involved) and he is making me feel like I am not paying him enough. The problem is, he contracted the work out, and $3000 of the money is to be paid for the shop that was built. He said he would do the rest of the work for $500, but he has been complaining and giving me excuses when I have sent him all the elements at the right size and all he needs to do is drop it in. I have been getting emails that are rude and it is obvious that he resents me for his time, which I feel that I have waited sooooo long for this site to be up and running, and I have also designed it so it has taken a ton of my time to do this (and am paying $2000 over budget for this), and then I have to feel bad when I ask if it will be ready. He has sent me a thousand excuses (kids are sick again, he is sick, etc) and I am so tired of his unprofessional attitude. I do not need to hear excuses, or that he has exhausted his time (when they are small changes and I am not a moron- I have sent him all the files and all he has to do is upload them) when what it boils down to is he is upset that the guy he contracted is getting paid all the money for the coding, and he does not want to spend any of his precious time just to upload things. Plus he has a full time job and small children (of which he constantly tells me) so he is bogged down and does not want to spend any time on my site. I have had it with this guy. The rude emails are ridiculous, the constant excuses and making me feel bad for just wanting my website up again (I am losing business the longer it is down). I swear I could have learned web design in the time I waited to get this thing moving- it is just WordPress, people! This has gone on for seven months. AHHHHHH! So, please put yourself in the client’s shoes and do not send rude emails that are condescending. Clients do not want to hear excuses, and be clear if you will not do the work for a certain price instead of making the client feel bad. If I could have walked away from this and hired a different designer that would have designed the site and put it up, I would have. I do not have time to resize things so that he can just drop it in. That is what I am paying him to do. Ugh. OK- obviously this has been a horrible experience.

    • Paidlancer

      If all that is needed is to upload pictures, why not do it yourself ? No offence, but it sounds like the person you hired is going through scope creep. If you said “build me this design in wordpress” then hes done that. If you said “build me this design in wordpress, and than I want you to upload photos, put them on the site, as well as build out any missing elements” than he has not.

      This is where contracts should of came into play, as I imagine you stated the first one, and you got exactly what you asked for. I feel bad for you, I do, but you always need to be clear on what your expectations are, and the fact that your designer, is acting like their doing you a favour may be because they are.

      Your statements, that you could “learn web design in a month,” “its only wordpress,” and that you “designed everything, all they have to do is drop images” shows how little you respect the industry, and how little you actually know about it. You stating how over budget you are has no bearing, on anything,  I never walk into a hotel, rent a room, than complain about the hotel because the costs of their services were more than I budgeted for, that would be stupid.

      As for condescending emails ………. you usually only get those if your a nuisance client that fails to recognize when what their asking for goes beyond the scope of work agreement, when the client gets rude, or when the client has a disrespectful attitude.

      You asked for a design for a theme be implemented into wordpress, now you want a full site developed, there’s a large difference there.

  • http://www.dotcomhouse.net santho

    Great Post man.Thanks

  • Derek O’Reilly

    What about bad experiences with bad web developers where contract is signed with all details agreed including 1 year warranty. Then when all funds transferred problem appears and developer tries to fix and finds he cannot makes things worse and walks away, refuses to communicate , refuses to hand over the web files.
    It is not all one way.
    Name of developer with author if required.

  • Eaa

    I was at a
    Facial salon when I strike up a conversation with the boss who told me about
    the problems that she is experiencing with her current Freelancer. Initially, I
    thought that the current Freelancer was the nightmare as we have all heard
    about Freelancers being unprofessional. I introduced myself as a website
    designer and she requested that I do up her website for her. And I accepted the job (Which I
    shouldn’t have)

    It was only when I first started working with her when I realized that it was
    SHE who was the nightmare. When I send her designs based on her questionnaire,
    she told me that was not the look that she is looking for. She showed me her competitor’s
    website and requested that I copy it – Exactly the way that it is. I informed
    her of the copyright issues and offered to do up another design.

    I send her
    the designs and that’s when the nightmare started. She called me and started
    screaming into my ears that she does not need a designer! Because she can
    design it on her own since I am not able to meet her expectations. Do note that
    she called and screamed into my ears 4 times. Being green, I was easy to be
    pushed over and she knew that and took advantage of it. I caved in and designed
    according to her instructions but using different elements so that it will not
    infringe on copyright. She was happy with it.

    With the approval of the home page, we continued with the design for the
    remaining pages. She called and told me that I did not place the elements on
    the design like how she wanted it to be. I told her that she could either tell
    me over the phone or write it via email. No way, she said. The design has been
    dragging on too long. She wants to sit down with the designer to complete the
    website within a day.

    Thus, I set
    up a meeting between her and the designer. The designer is my friend and I
    actually had to pay for the time he sat down with the client out of my own
    pocket. Never have I experience a Client sitting in front of me and instructing
    me and my friend where to place the elements. Not only does it create
    additional stress (With the client watching like a hawk), but I felt very
    insulted with her pinpointing where to place each and every single element on
    the website.

    Naturally, I
    decided to give up. It was not worth the amount of time and effort that I have
    to put in for the website. The project has already dragged on for 7 months and
    I was only charging her $1,100 for the entire website. This translates into
    $157 per month, $5 per day. I called her up and told her in the most polite way
    possible that I would not be able to continue on with this project as I am making a loss
    on this project. However, I am glad to refund her deposit. She started
    screaming at me and told me that she will sue me if I do drop her. As a student
    designer, when I heard the word ‘sue’, I was petrified. I found myself with no
    choice but to continue on with her.

    Finally, the
    design was approved (After much going back and forth) and was sent for coding.
    Again, there were issues with the coding. As hers was an eCommerce website, she
    sent me all her products (which was a few hundred) and requested that I upload it
    onto her website. I told her that uploading of products will be an additional
    charge. Again, she started screaming at me. She told me that I should have told
    her this in the beginning of the project and not at the end of the project.
    This time, I stood my ground and told her that there is no free lunch in this
    world. However, I did upload some products (not all) to shut her gap up.

    When it was
    time for her to make payment, she requested to give a post-dated cheaque. Fine,
    I thought. It was only till the end of the month. Lo and behold. During this
    period, she nitpicked on everything possible. From the browser refreshing
    (something we can’t control) to the navigation menu, it really drove me crazy.
    If it was a fault that the developer created, I would have gladly solved it on
    her behalf. But it was issues such as ‘Why do the entire page turn white when
    the browser refresh?’ How do you expect me to solve that? Like seriously?

    If I have a
    gun, I would put three shots into her brains. Bang. Bang. Bang. But the thought of prison stopped
    me. Next time, Im interviewing my clients before working with them. Even if business is bad, I would not
    pick up another nightmare client. Once is enough. Twice? I might really commit
    murder.